James Baraz recently interviewed Bob Doppelt, a leading environmental and sustainability expert who coordinates the International Transformational Resilience Coalition (ITRC), a network of more than 300 mental health, trauma treatment, and resilience-building professionals working to build individual psychological and collective psycho-social-spiritual resilience in response to the traumas and toxic stresses generated by climate change. Doppelt is the author of Transformational Resilience: How Building Human Resilience to Climate Disruption Can Safeguard Society and Increase Wellbeing and From Me to We: The Five Transformational Commitments Required to Rescue the Planet, Your Organization, and Your Life.

“Systems push back hardest when they’re on the verge of change because there is a desire to maintain the status quo. It is very possible if we have the right perspective and we take the right approach, the climate crisis could be used as a moment in history of profound transformation. It’s occurring already with the growth of renewable energy. It could be the start of a new economic model and a mind shift about what’s important in life and how we humans must live on the earth and sustain it.”

For the full conversation go to www.awakeningjoy.info and click on “Conversations with the Wise.”